Interview Excerpt
INTERVIEW with JIM PONS

New York, NY
April 24, 2000

Excerpt
by Steve Moore

With a remarkable music career behind him -- first as bass player for The Leaves and The Turtles, and later with Frank Zappa's Live at the Fillmore East troupe, Jim Pons recently resigned his post as video director for the New York Jets -- a position he held for 27 years. In this exclusive interview excerpt, Jim discusses his memories of Frank Zappa and "Smoke on the Water"

Were you present at both the burning of the stage at Montreaux - immortalized in Deep Purple's "Smoke on the Water"- and also when Frank was thrown 10 feet offstage by the crazed fan in Europe? If so, then how come you didn't prevent these things? (Just kidding). What do you recall thinking about when these events took place? Any details you'd like to add?

Yes and yes. The fire broke out in the last few minutes of a 90 minute show... during the encore we never should've given. We were playing "King Kong" and I looked up to see flames in the second or third row of the balcony. They were small enough that I remember thinking someone could put them out in a matter of seconds by beating them with their coats. We continued playing, but it seemed like everyone else was over reacting. People in the front came up on stage and ran through us and past us to get to who knows where. Immediately our stage managers told us to put our guitars down and get to the side of the stage. I saw the fire fall down from the balcony to the seats below and then I realized that it was becoming a serious emergency. People were screaming and scrambling in all directions to find doors which, in an old theatre like that, were few and far between. Our bus driver ushered us downstairs through some kind of kitchen area where we were safe from the crowd for a minute but there were no doors and no where else for us to go. Unbelievably smoke was already coming down there with us. It was an old building, burning fast, and it sounded like it was about to collapse on top of us. The bus driver used his fist to break a glass wall that led to the outside through which we escaped. It had been less than two minutes since we were playing. An unreal episode, but one that we still thought was going to come under control until we got out onto the street and watched the building burn to the ground. It turns out that members of Deep Purple were also watching from their hotel across the water. The next day after suveying the damage and walking through the rubble of what used to be the stage, Frank uncharacteristically allowed us to vote on whether or not to continue the European tour. It would take at least two weeks to get reorganized, but we still had several weeks of sold out concerts remaining. It also meant having to replace everything destroyed in the fire... instruments, lights, sound system, all of Frank's guitars. We voted to continue.

The next scheduled performance was even more devasting, and it turned our to be our last with the Mothers. Frank got pushed into the orchestra pit of the theatre we were playing in London. My recollection of that event is hazy probably because I still hadn't gotten over what had happened in Switzerland. It was so unreal. Like in a dream. I remember images of Frank lying there, our road managers holding onto, and screaming at the assailant, the feeling of stunned disbelief that everybody felt. I think I myself must have blacked out by then. I don't recall much of anything after that except visiting Frank in the hospital before we left to come home. Everyone was sad and quiet.

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